More speculation. Opinions on Sentry's powers seem to vary greatly, so i figured i'd use my favorite character (Thor) to try and get a grasp of what you guys think of Sentry.. R1: Thor w/o Mjolnir. Why try and wank RKT more than what he is. He will still win, but not as easily as some seem to think. How is destroying a celestial impressive when even Sentry can do that? It's such a nothing point etc. Getting scared is a form of emotion. R5: Rune King Thor. It's bad nitpicking especially from a intent perspective. Thor hasn't actually properly hurt Knull yet, so we can't judge. Then that means it wasn’t a Big Bang he was hit by. Blowing up half a Galaxy, head butting Galactus and fighting Thanos. Rune King Thor He destroyed Yggdrasil, the World Tree. It was later revealed to contain infinite universes, making it a multiverse. The celestials that Knull brought with him weren’t dead. He is more powerful than Odin therefore he stomps with Odin feats. In fact it isn’t even a speculation because before that Knull wasn’t doing anything rather than floating around and when hit by light he hated it. Not too sure about RKT's feats. Well there could be some truth to that, and if it wasn’t contradicted we shouldn’t dismiss any should we? How is destroying a celestial impressive when even Sentry can do that? Celestial shells aren't that impressive to smash (even guys like Namor have done so) Knull killed one outright (and Knull did destroy Sentry as well, so....). Team Doomsday vs Team Hulk. He has mental connection and it is electromagnetic. la verda es que no conocemos el poder del sentry desatado a su maximo , pero si conocemos el poder de rune king thor, que fue tan poderoso (omniciente, omnipotente) , llegando a estar a la altura de los dioses sombra (dioses de los dioses) y estando sobre el tribunal viviente, y llegando a unirse comprender a TOAA, si bien sentry (dark sentry y void) han mostrado mucho poder, nunca han … Not an avatar. @professorrespect: He literally said it was the most painful thing he ever experienced. There's no proof he was dead after the Gorr initial scene and Knull wasn't even a character then. It was created before they were around and could actively bond with other hosts, unlike Knull's symbotes whom at the time could only do so under his command. @MFrenzy11: I am not trying to argue with you or anything. He is powerful enough to make a blast that opens a dimensional rift. First means it functions the exact same? He took literally nothing and one hit from a featless spear left him dead for years. By that time since light started to exist how did Knull perceive Eons? @professorrespect: Not on Earth but just a tiny lighting from millions of galaxies hurt him? Dr. Manhattan destroys sup. The lighting was to show how his connection to the Grendel was strong enough that its pain carried to him. And do not get me any wrong Chaos War Hercules is an immense force to be reckoned with and its a battle that i feel could go either way but in no case do i think it could be a stomp. Rune King Thor gana, fue el único que de verdad llegó a comprender al mismo TOAA (Existencia del todo el Omniverso y destino). Dude....You are killing me. Based on what we know about Knull and his origin that is the most rational speculation. Well it laughed at Gorr when Thor took it, and it LOVES Gorr, as it has been said, He is more powerful than Odin therefore he stomps with Odin feats. Connect the dots. Once again friendly forum nt arguing now.. the people on comicvine vine praise rkt so heavily on his power and then when i put him up against who i believe is a worthy opponent thts its not close? @professorrespect: Not on Earth but just a tiny lighting from millions of galaxies hurt him? The Necrosword IS THE FIRST OF THE SYMBIOTES. Who are those aliens? © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Exactly where was this stated? Where is the proof they are? On Earth? I think I crossed the line when I called many writers idiots for their inconsistent writings but now you know better than the artist and the writer who wrote the issue. Rune King Thor Thor Odinson: 8.5 B: White Phoenix of the Crown Jean Grey: 10 B: Scarlet Witch (Life Force) Wanda Maximoff: 31 M: Superman Prime One-Million Kal-El: 3.2 M: Lifebringer Galactus Galan: Death Seed Sentry Robert Reynolds Superman Prime One Million is taking on Rune King Thor! Those didn't have any form of sentience and were basically just extensions of itself. Neither of them is true. Rune king Thor vs. It was the Grendel that got hurt, and that pain went to him cuz of the connection ofc. @Killemall: oh, you know what arguments she could bring, RKT merged with the universe, and some wacky victory will come from the Omniscience thing. It isn’t. He is able to make Mangog disappear from existence with a single thought, hold him back with one arm and no-sell his blows. The same orange-colored light? Yeah but we can obviously at least discern that Knull was within this blast for a very very long time by what he said. thts is like ur right unknown. Darth_Erebus. thumbsup who says skyfathers are so much stronger than a herald??? I dont recall it being stated anywhere in Thor Dissemble, nor do i recall this being stated in his bio. Chaos War 03 : Before having absorbed a lot of universe, in a weakened power level, a chaos King powered Zeus stomped Galactus. I don’t know how you can say that it didn’t hurt him properly. It is the light from the celestials. Rune King Thor cant beat a fully fed Galactus or best a Fully powered Celestials. Are any of them as impressive as destroying a Celestial? Dude, you saw them creating planets from their hands... No lowballing here. KMC Forums > Comic Book Forums > Comic Book 'Versus' Forum > Rune king Thor vs. Penguin & Catwoman vs James Gordon. He doesn't have "electromagnetic connection" nor has ever been a factor. He was neither merged with the universe, the scan people love to use clearly says he was "gazing" into the eternity rather than merged with the universe. Gender: Male Location: Miami Metropolitan Area Yep, but that was after we have mechanics necessary for the universe to reset itself on its own.. Knull also created one Grendel and many symbiotes during the black silver surfer arc.. Umm a concept of eons isn’t something even we in modern days understand so well...and by that time, logically you couldn’t have come up with eons as a measurement? What are the feats of the celestials Knull destroyed? Really sentry, Rune King Thor surpass his father in power and wisdom and Odin planned that from the begining. It is evil enough to corrupt Thor‘, Ego’ and Galactus‘ mind and picky enough to “love” Gorr. Rune King Thor Vixen, Spider-Man, Death Seed Sentry, Franklin Richards, and Oblivion are pointless in this battle. Old Asgardian beings being able to speak perfect English, aliens being able to speak English without tech are all things you can say are examples of what you discuss. Yes and so are the symbiotes that are under Knull’s control. Rune King Thor and this version of Herc are both on Skyfather level except that Chaos War Hercules is stated to be the most powerful skyfather ever to exist. Superman One million is largely featless but we can power scale off of Kal Kent who posses only a portion of his powers. Rune king thor vs (current knull who ripped sentry in half), King Thor Will fight decently against Knull, so RKT wins handly. @professorrespect: It didn‘t did. Also even if we go with the assumption that RKT is far above Odin, we have confirmation that Chaos War Hercules is far above Galactus. Maybe. I understand such a plane of existence exists but this is pure mental wave. Nope. I think it is even said in older comics that the celestials built the cosmos, The same older comics said that Destroyer was the most dangerous being in the universe and that Galactus was basically TOAA. Dark_Wing 1 y 6 mo 6 d . I think I crossed the line when I called many writers idiots for their inconsistent writings but now you know better than the artist and the writer who wrote the issue.. He took literally nothing and one hit from a featless spear left him dead for years. By that time since light started to exist how did Knull perceive Eons? Eon is a human concept. Hmm, I think I would give it to Xeno Goku. How do you know it isn’t exaggeration? Yet you can only speculate about the eons point and you have to act like it wasn't even a thing. I'd disagree with this. It is important to discuss this because you don’t seem to able to understand how exaggerations and hyperboles work. Can we actually discuss the battle instead of boring stuff like this? Also perhaps his other descendants. When he was pounding on that Necro Sword he didn‘t seem to hurt himself at all although the entire symbiote race became paranoid by it from that action. Suspension of disbelief is required when this occurs. Taurus 10 d Rune King Thor vs Knull # I mean, if you tried to pit RKT against the chaos king, you couldn't expect him to do much more than die hilariously. LOL. Obviously, he was short-lived, but the most obvious difference was his wisdom/intelligence. @professorrespect: What is the weakness that all symbiotes have? thats ur opinion and its one that i do not necessarily agree with logy5000 knows what he's talking about @logy5000 said: and rkt gets stepped on' ..hahahahahahahha this is the first forum on comic vine ive seen someone make tht comment ...ever. What has he taken? Destroyer got wiped by Celestials even with amps and Odin in the seat. But if you want to discuss the battle then go on. Stop the lowball thanks. show 1 reply . Team Gorr The God Butcher vs Team Rune King Thor. How can it get so paranoid of being pounded upon if it was lifeless? They even discuss how the pain causes Knull to lose the hive mind connection to them due to the Grendel being destroyed. For now, this is a mismatch in favor of Thor... however, it would be better to wait until the end of King in Black for better conclusions, perhaps Knull will get more impressive feats. I am curious. and you get flagged for such spite match. 8 years ago Rune King Thor can lose to the Abstract beings such as Eternity and Infinity. show 2 replies . It also wasn't sentient either, even when Knull had no control over the symbiotes it stayed as a inanimate object. The dead ones that were only a shell in King of Black? That's the whole plotline of how he gets them back into control because humans use the Grendel in experiments, allowing Knull to re-establish connection etc. There's not really a sentience like Venom or Carnage. Ok, I … Borr was speaking old Norse and his children seemed to adapt to speak our modern language and if you read Thor’s tone you would know he speaks King James English. Hercules is supposed to be physically stronger than Thor by a small degree. Yep. We do not know if he is indeed fargreater than odin or a little greater than odin. What do you think he has been doing then? @professorrespect: He literally said it was the most painful thing he ever experienced since he began colonizing the cosmos, and the lightning went from the Grendel to Knull and then to all other symbiotes. Thor, no matter how you try to convince me. When he was making it in the Celestial? R3: Thor with 2 Mjolnirs. Today, we've got two of the most powerful and mightiest heroes in all of comics going head to head! ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. It has so much in common that its mental condition was transferred to another one among its race.. Michealdem17 4 mo 5 d . Well it laughed at Gorr when Thor took it, and it LOVES Gorr, as it has been said. Knull was referring to eons as in time, not Eon, the cosmological guy. Says who? That makes him weak, Him being effected by a weakness that all symbiotes have isn't "weak" lol, He was in complete darkness (the Abyss before creation) and then was exposed to a bright blast of mass and light for eons....but it wasn't a Big Bang, just some fancy lights? I never said they weren't making planets but sure, You just didn’t read enough on your favorite character, I did his RT......you made some long PM's that nobody read. I don't think there was anything saying as such there, If he can endure the heat of the Big Bang he wouldn’t have had screamed at stars and Thor’s lightings. (which i myself dont believe), or Chaos War Hercules is far above Galactus? Doesn’t mean he experiences their pain the same way they do. Too bad no one the Vine believes this anymore. Thor his Lighting is anti Knull and affects Knull greater then anything to date so Yeah RKT. I am a little unsure what dont viners believe anymore, that RKT is far above Odin? Dangerous doesn‘t always mean powerful . Void Sentry Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links. Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes. Friend, a more accurate statement would be, there was one and that is the Necrosword, on which he pounded for quite a big while until it became a sword and he is also connected to it but didn’t seem to experience pain as he hit it repeatedly. @professorrespect: That is because Thor’s lighting was transferred across galaxies to Knull, but it was a little lighting. Rune King Thor vs Strange visitor superman vs Xeno Goku. Rune King Thor vs The Sentry (Merged With Void) # Rune King Thor @Michealdem17 Hater confirmed. That ability allows a lesser foe to take down a greater foe by diviinng the proper methods and weak points. It is important to discuss this because you don’t seem to able to understand how exaggerations and hyperboles work. The Knull symbiotes function to a far greater extent in terms of autonomy compared to the Necroblade, which was basically always treated as a weapon. RKT was never said to be omniscience the only time we ever say anything remotely close to omniscience was when he was hung up on Mimir tree, and he intentionally broke the connection because he had seen enough. Isn’t that some sort of hyperbole? He has done nothing to show that, like at all in the whole series. Rune King Thor 10/10. No, it creates lives and can hunt down gods from every single place in the universe. @professorrespect: It was the Knull’s electromagnetic connection through which Thor’s lightning went to hurt him. Also even if we go with the assumption that RKT is far above Odin, we have confirmation that Chaos War Hercules is far above Galactus. I know they are connected but he felt what they were hit by and if he wasn’t weak or inconsistent why did he over react towards it that way? Incorrect. Chaos War Hercules is stronger and more powerful, but Rune King Thor had one very important ability which is being underestimated...omniscience. Also Odin himself has power of Rune and Odin Force in him, thats the whole reason RKT had to go hang himself twice. But if you want to discuss the battle then go on. I wouldn't say they are far above skyfather level, but they are above them. If we are to assume it is an expansion of matter, as is now agreed, then we are still in a Big Bang right now. While there is no denying Hercules was actually losing, and he was, he did hold his own against Chaos King for quite a while. If its on the issue than i cant, while i have most of Thor issues with me, its a very, very big pile to go through, dont really have energy atm :p. RKT is even arguably weaker than Galactus, how would he be a challenge to universal/multiversal being like Chaos War Hercules!!!!??? Team Darkseid (New 52) vs Team Odin. @professorrespect: Isn’t that explained in the issue we saw Knull forging that sword? And like u said he hung himself twice to gain power, wouldn't tht give the assumption tht he is twice as powerful as Odin? Him pounding on the Necrosword disproves your theory. Knull has already taken far stronger attacks outside of Thor anyway in the flesh and not reacted like that, so it's obvious why that is. Eh? For most of the time they speak their own language but there is a TRANSLATOR. It simply exploded to pieces and just because his symbiotes felt pain doesn‘t mean he would have. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. If Knull can call upon the void which has nothing do with his powerset you think he isn’t connected to the necrosword? @professorrespect: I don‘t understand the first reply. Yes and so are the symbiotes that are under Knull’s control. What has he taken? Elaine Belloc vs Silver Surfer. Well Odin himself has Odin Force and Rune Magic, thats the only reason why Thor has to die twice to gain rune magic as opposed to once (because Odin already did it once). People really think this is close? Celestials used to be the big dog but got kicked away over time. Ofc he would lol. The way Cates presented it was absurd so we better assume it is an exaggeration due to so many things being wrong. Good night. Rune King Thor and Lucifer would then go at it for an eternity, neither of them beating the other, considering they are both Multiversal in power @professorrespect: It was the Knull’s electromagnetic connection. @professorrespect: And where is your proof it goes the same way for Knull? Death Seed Sentry vs Captain Atom* Rune King Thor* vs Black Racer and Captain Atom Team Thor wins. Both are far above Skyfather level. How much above we dont know, and if you start including feats RKT is outgunned. He had a hive mind connection to each and every one of them. If he can endure the heat of the Big Bang he wouldn’t have had screamed at stars and Thor’s lightings. If he'd connected to them then that's the case lol. It is the most logical answer. CWH is close to multiversal level. Same conditions, Dude, you saw them creating planets from their hands, The lowballing is you saying they are causing the massive amounts of mass and light, which they weren't. Hercules wins. Team Rune King Thor Rune king Thor takes out Gorr. @professorrespect: That is his true body. I agree. @All_Mighty_Beyonder: LOL while i dont normally condone posting such picture, this one made me laugh real hard :). Hercules was putting up a good fight, he was losing yes, but the Chaos King had to struggle for all Mikaboshi was worth to pull a lead. That makes him weak. It obviously doesn't considering Gorr could use it just fine despite Knull being able to pick and choose how symbiotes bonded if at all. Bonus Round: Who … This topic is locked from further discussion. Ok cool? Even if it was normal Thor they still take it 9/10. I know, and as I said, eons are humans’ frames of time.. How did Knull perceive them? If its on bio, i have virtually every bio from Marvel and there arent many bio published after Thor Dissemble, i could check it out farily quickly. You just didn’t read enough on your favorite character before you wanted him. The Necro constructs had nothing. Sure you can connect the dots. When he started out he couldn’t have been able to grasp the concept of ”eons” a spoken word in human language. Also Killemall ill follow cuz as much as im trying to vouch for rkt ur reasoning isnt faulty. They didn't create the mass or light in the universe. Necro constructs are lives some way or another. You dismiss the old when current stuff overrides it. Rune King Thor is still under Omnipotent beings such as The-One-Above-All and Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. If you want a Knull feat standalone, you should be reading some of his other stuff. Why would the author have him say eons when he actually doesn't mean eons? I give respect to everyone's comment on this forum just something i felt like i needed to get off my chest. Speculation on that kind of stuff can't really go anywhere because of how little info we get about Knull pre current universe. Rune King Thor > Odin Rune King Thor = Odin & Zeus. Bad nitpicking. Idk, Knull was around before matter was even a thing. Hey, before Knull was stabbed to the death, did you see Necrosword being possessed by anyone else? @professorrespect: Isn’t that explained in the issue we saw Knull forging that sword? Outside that not once has he been claimed to be omniscience nor shown, further back by the fact that after Ragnarok happened during Thor Dissemble, he had to gaze into eternity to hoping to find a star to guide him, obviously a problem someone with omniscience wont have. They would just get wished away by Rune King Thor. I know they are connected but he felt what they were hit by and if he wasn’t weak or inconsistent why did he over react towards it that way. It is evil enough to corrupt Thor‘, Ego’ and Galactus‘ mind and picky enough to “love” Gorr. That is what he has. Really curious. There could have been no Big Bang otherwise the Celestials would have been seen creating planets. Who wins from your perspective? the second part is hard to deny, Mikaboshi amped Zeus damn near one shotted Galactus, while Hercules fought him for a long battle, was losing, and in his weakened condition recreated 98% of the multiverse (or universe, if you go by more recent bios), should put him comfortably above Galactus i would think. It functions identically and if you read the word carefully you would know that it is the PROGENITOR of all symbiotes which is also a blueprint from which Knull created another. So it's been stated, yet not proven. So.. 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